Welcome to Federated Wiki video chat on 2016-01-20
Attending today:
- Ward
- Allen Wirfs-Brock
- David Ing
- Paul
- Donaldt Noyes
- Mike Caulfield
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Now scraping the whole federation
- SOLR
- 28,000 pages on local host
Learning Javascript
- Ward had learned with D3
Mike is building some hacky things, less ambitious than fed wiki
- Faculty member (French colonial history) wants footnotes, says Wikipedia has it
- Ward has some writing on footnotes in the past
- Faculty idiom, backward looking
- If you want a lengthy footnote, write another page ... but it looks weird
Ward shared screen to show some D3 visualizations
- Upscale visualization
- Bundled connections
- Showed org chart, will show who worked in the company when they joined
- Hierarchy: interested in how people are communicating across the hierarchy, mining of job titles across chat rooms
- Ward started with an example in D3, and rejiggered it to the data set
David talked about Hubzilla, Friendica, Diaspora*
Pods come from Mike
- Pods were more successful with non-students, than students
- Students had expectations -- no communications problems to solve
- Didn't know why you would choose people in your network
Ward showed some pods
- ward.asia.wiki.org
- When see recent changes, can see what's going on
- Temporal view ... but then what I think is important
Mike's innovation: There needs to be some almost dictatorial control over a pod.
- There needs to be a charter, we're in a pod for a purpose
- What do you need to be a member of the pod
- Also need a way for people who are reading the pod, who aren't members
- Whoever owns the site owns the original members of the pod
- A study group, someone has leadership as owning the roster, then other people can copy that in
- If Ward kicks out Mike, then he disappears from the community
- Can specify someone who will maintain a list of members of a community
- Could pull in a roster from someone else, add some people to the bottom, e.g. Paul could add Mike back in
- Roster-plugin: Command-i gives instructions
life.ward.asia.wiki.org -- for an interview that Ward had
- Created a pod
- Then can look at recent changes
- Don't ask me a question, without telling me what you're interested in
- Books is about the knowledge commons (as opposed life with information liberation)
- Interview Pod Charter ... Experimental Interview
- Interest in Elinor Ostrom, so discovered rules
Putting all of the students in one roster really simplified the first day in class
- Students would all create wikis, and then immediately went into the roster
- Had little interest in creating their own rosters
David Bovill has been working on videos, could help explain farms
- Paul was interviewed on tutorials, stepping through Digital Ocean to harden the site
Unhappy people in Wikimedia Foundation, over the last month: board changes
- Wikipedia signpost has a take on this
- After years of trying to address issues of editors falling off, maybe question-and-answer sites are where young people are going
- That's a direction they wanted to explore, got a Knight Foundation grant, but some directors didn't want directed grants
Connection between rise of Quora and Stack Overflow, and idea of federated wiki
- Question is the title, then people give answers
- Attraction: someone can present a really coherent take on something, without arguing about the issue
- On Quora, get more experts, as they can say something and not bicker on it
A talk at the Wikimedia Foundation, video getting around
- Stack Overflow has as many editors as Wikipedia
- How do we reuse things, and have personal voice (as per Quora)
In discussion groups, want a process when can have a revolution
- Could try to take over a wildlife refuge, but noone might be there
Discussion has been on mechanisms: is there a theory?
The Design of Inquiring Systems, C. West Churchman
Two styles:
- Publication, someone creating a positon, for others to ponder
- Discussion
- Goes back to footnote discussion: ancillary
- A way in a software tool to copresent that?
Try to so something that hasn't been done before, because not profitable, and try out principles: an experiment